Unsurprisingly, revered American conservatives Ronald & Nancy Reagan disapprove of John McCain's Sixties-style shack-up w/ Arizona honey Cindy Lou. Excerpts/commentary from today's Los Angeles Times report:

Carol McCain did not respond to a request for an interview.

About all she has ever said is this to McCain biographer Robert Timberg: "John was turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again."

Small wonder now that he's 72 Senator McCain is wanting to be 45 (as Obama is) again.


...while on a trip as a Navy liaison with the Senate, McCain spied Hensley at the Honolulu reception. In a recent television interview with Jay Leno on the "Tonight Show," Cindy McCain joked about how the Navy captain had pursued her. "He kind of chased me around . . . the hors d'oeuvre table," she said. "I was trying to get something to eat and I thought, 'This guy's kind of weird.' I was kind of trying to get away from him."

John McCain was 42; Cindy Lou was 24. During the next nine months, he would fly to Arizona or she would come to the Washington area, where McCain and Carol had a home.

Captain Tail-Gate.


Carol McCain was distraught at being blindsided by her husband's intention to end their marriage, said her friends in the Reagan circle.

"They [the Reagans] weren't happy with him," Fitzwater said. Carol McCain "was this little, frail person. . . . She was brokenhearted."

Don't get Dutch's dander up.


McCain, who is about to become the GOP nominee, has made several statements about how he divorced Carol and married Hensley that conflict with the public record.

In his 2002 memoir, "Worth the Fighting For," McCain wrote that he had separated from Carol before he began dating Hensley.

"I spent as much time with Cindy in Washington and Arizona as our jobs would allow," McCain wrote. "I was separated from Carol, but our divorce would not become final until February of 1980."

An examination of court documents tells a different story. McCain did not sue his wife for divorce until Feb. 19, 1980, and he wrote in his court petition that he and his wife had "cohabited" until Jan. 7 of that year -- or for the first nine months of his relationship with Hensley.

Although McCain suggested in his autobiography that months passed between his divorce and remarriage, the divorce was granted April 2, 1980, and he wed Hensley in a private ceremony five weeks later. McCain obtained an Arizona marriage license on March 6, 1980, while still legally married to his first wife.

Everybody makes mistakes, even politicians. How they-who-would-take-tax-money-to-lead respond & face up to errors is what's most important. Senator McCain should come clean about what he really thinks is worth fighting for.

Full story: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-di...6546861.story?page=1

But, at least his mother wasn't a flighty slut that preferred foreign men and living abroad.

I don't believe a persons personal life has a great deal to do with the kind of leader he/she might make. Haven't you heard the rumor that Hillary actually swings both ways and prefers girls? It's out there. Is that why she lost the nomination? I don't think so. Is that the reason she didn't kick Bill out of the house after his escapades? Could be. Who cares?

quote:

Originally posted by Santiago:
I don't believe a persons personal life has a great deal to do with the kind of leader he/she might make. Haven't you heard the rumor that Hillary actually swings both ways and prefers girls? It's out there.

Santiago has unwittingly reminded us of the riled politician who stood up & said, "If my opponent will stop spreading scurrilous lies about my record, I'll stop telling the truth about his."

Whether Hillary swings both ways is speculation. That John Sidney McCain the 3rd failed to get the date of his divorce correct when recounting the affair in his own autobiography is a matter of fact.

That Father Barack Obama represents the kind of American values families cherish -- the non-divorcing kind -- is well-established. That John McCain was born in Panama on conquered territory that the USA gave back is, again, fact.

Illinois-born Ronald Reagan's disapproval of the McCain divorce isn't surprising. Nor is the unease shown by General Colin Powell, who led the USA to victory in Iraq War I w/ a clearly-defined exit strategy, toward endorsing his fellow GOPer's candidacy.

Mere opinion: General Powell would make an excellent choice to be Senator Obama's running mate.

quote:

Ronald Reagan's

And Ronald Reagan is dead. I guess he is speaking from the grave.

Bump: I wonder who Archie Bunker from All in the Family would vote for?

Or Fred G Sanford, & the G stands for Gravy, rhymes w/ Maybe, as in they ain't no maybe in Obama getting the gravy?

Maude? Lou Grant? The White Shadow? Dr Johnny Fever? The Fonz? Richie Cunningham? Opie? Hard to imagine Barack losing a TV-Land election. Oldtime shows were slanted toward idealizing a colorblind society, w/out depicting one until the classic Room 222 came along. Wouldn't Mr Bunker've made a great janitor in that high school?

quote:

Originally posted by Jethro Bodine:
Or Fred G Sanford, & the G stands for Gravy, rhymes w/ Maybe, as in they ain't no maybe in Obama getting the gravy?

Maude? Lou Grant? The White Shadow? Dr Johnny Fever? The Fonz? Richie Cunningham? Opie? Hard to imagine Barack losing a TV-Land election. Oldtime shows were slanted toward idealizing a colorblind society, w/out depicting one until the classic Room 222 came along. Wouldn't Mr Bunker've made a great janitor in that high school?

I bet the T.V. land election would be closer than you think. Andy,Gomer ,Uncle Jesse , beau and luke Duke. And many more.

quote:

Originally posted by sir knight:
I bet the T.V. land election would be closer than you think. Andy,Gomer ,Uncle Jesse , beau and luke Duke. And many more.

Well, now you've got us thinking, sir knight. Andy was a closet liberal. Gomer was flat-out in flaming favor of permissive marriage policies. I'll give you the Dukes, but Boss Hawg had to be a Democrat & he'd swing a lot of "graveyard" votes Obama's way. Had Al Gore won Tennessee he'd be President today.

The cast of Hee-Haw? The Real McCoys? How would Oliver Wendell Douglas vote? Thurston Howell III would vote for John Sidney McCain the 3rd, darn tootin'. Kansan Mary Anne was about Obama's mom's age.

quote:

Originally posted by Jethro Bodine:

quote:

Originally posted by sir knight:
I bet the T.V. land election would be closer than you think. Andy,Gomer ,Uncle Jesse , beau and luke Duke. And many more.

Well, now you've got us thinking, sir knight. Andy was a closet liberal. Gomer was flat-out in flaming favor of permissive marriage policies. I'll give you the Dukes, but Boss Hawg had to be a Democrat & he'd swing a lot of "graveyard" votes Obama's way. Had Al Gore won Tennessee he'd be President today.

The cast of Hee-Haw? The Real McCoys? How would Oliver Wendell Douglas vote? Thurston Howell III would vote for John Sidney McCain the 3rd, darn tootin'. Kansan Mary Anne was about Obama's mom's age.

Never thought of Gomer that way. But now I think about "I dont care who you are that's funny" Larry the cable guy.

quote:

Originally posted by sir knight:
... Larry the cable guy.

Too new for me to know. I haven't watched TV since Denny Crane & Boston Legal spun off from "the practice".

The Obamas bear a likeness to Rob & Laura Petrie, who reigned over the Camelot of the early-Sixties tube. The McCains? Fred & Ethel Mertz, penny-wise & pound-foolish.

JJ & Thelma Evans would vote Obama, as would the Brady Kids, Partridge Family, & Jackson Five. The Osmonds would stick w/ McCain. Monkees assuredly are still Nader Space Raiders. Hoss CartWright would back Barack.

quote:

Originally posted by Jethro Bodine:

quote:

Originally posted by sir knight:
... Larry the cable guy.

Too new for me to know. I haven't watched TV since Denny Crane & Boston Legal spun off from "the practice".

The Obamas bear a likeness to Rob & Laura Petrie, who reigned over the Camelot of the early-Sixties tube. The McCains? Fred & Ethel Mertz, penny-wise & pound-foolish.

JJ & Thelma Evans would vote Obama, as would the Brady Kids, Partridge Family, & Jackson Five. The Osmonds would stick w/ McCain. Monkees assuredly are still Nader Space Raiders. Hoss CartWright would back Barack.

Keith,
With your obvious expertise on television characters I would like to present the following question to you:
Who would win a bare knuckles fight between Jed Clampett and Andy Taylor?

I see this is a hot topic at the democraticunderground.com forum.

Clampett v. Taylor

Your brother,
Kevin

PS Hoss Cartwright didn't even register to vote but Little Joe did.

quote:

Illinois-born Ronald Reagan's disapproval of the McCain divorce isn't surprising. Nor is the unease shown by General Colin Powell, who led the USA to victory in Iraq War I w/ a clearly-defined exit strategy, toward endorsing his fellow GOPer's candidacy.

And with Reagan being divorced himself I doubt if he had too much to say about it.
Colin Powell took his toys and went home to pout! I don't remember him leading us to victory anywhere.

quote:

Originally posted by jlmer:
... with Reagan being divorced himself I doubt if he had too much to say about it.

jlmer, How dare you & John Sidney McCain the 3rd besmirch the memory of Ronald Reagan by comparing the Gipper's divorce from Jane Wyman (of FalconCrest fame) w/ McCain's unceremonious dumping of his own first wife. Reagan didn't pal around w/ Nancy while still married to Jane; thus he didn't have to cook up false divorce dates as the LA Times report shows McCain did.

quote:

Colin Powell took his toys and went home to pout! I don't remember him leading us to victory anywhere.

Powell bossed Norman Schwarzkopf. Have we already forgotten Iraq War I?

Off-topic, sources say I've been asked whether Uncle Jed could beat up Andy Taylor in a bareknuckle fistfight. Easily. Nobody ever laid a paw on J D Clampett. Or Barnaby Jones, for that matter. Or Davy Crockett's sidekick. Or the Tin Man. What a wonderful bunch of characters Buddy Ebsen left behind.

quote:

Originally posted by Jethro Bodine:

Powell bossed Norman Schwarzkopf. Have we already forgotten Iraq War I?

Only by appointment. Powell opposed Operation Desert Shield and Operation Desert Storm and publicly stated his interest in resolving the invasion of Kuwait by Hussien with UN-style sanctions. In fact I'm not sure that Powell had anything to do with the planning or execution of planning for either Operation Desert Storm or Operation Desert Sheild. Schwarzkopf was in charge of Central Command and was responsible for that specfic theatre of the world. He authored both military action plans and Powell's limited involvement may have been more a matter of formality (signing the plans before sending them on to President George H.W. Bush).