A thread of Obamaisms,and ,lifestyles of the F.O.B's.

No ,its not friends of Bills,the democrats have thrown him under the bus, it is Friends of Barracks.

I was looking for some accomplishments of Senator O's ,but the only political accomplishmnets made, seem to be getting elected to the senate,and the nomination by the democrats for POTUS.

And along the way ,Senator O seems to have made friends , who make a living by robbing from,I mean helping out those less fortunate.

I think we will start off this thread with yesterdays F.O.B's, and there helping of themselves,,,I mean the less fortunate.

1. Obamanomics ,,,The art of making money doing nothing.

[Quote] Obama, who has has been critical of Countrywide Financial, and other subprime lenders that are accused of extending credit to borrowers who could not afford it, appears to have a top advisor, with a close relationship with one such company’s top ranks.


James Johnson is on Obama’s vice presidential search team, but The Wall Street Journal reported Saturday he also received more than $7 million in loans, at least two loans of which were at below-market rates: a 5.25 percent loan for $1.3 million and a 3.875 percent loan for $971,000. The Journal reported that this special treatment came from a relationship with the company’s CEO, Angelo Mozilo. [Quote]


So lets wait out today so we can hear another O ism..

2.Obamapology..the daily ritual of distancing oneself from F.O.B's.

Thanks for the thread pigskinner. And I really mean it. I look forward to being enlightened on all the negatives Obama brings to the table.

There are only a few months left, and we can probably all agree, this election cycle is close to, or even the most, important one any of us has had a chance to vote in.

Some of the strongest criticism of Barack is on his experience. Even Hillary played this card over and over. The problem here is that when you look at the experience of Hillary or, now, John McCain, they have made a number of serious blunders that they have to be responsible for. Obama may end up where McCain is today, in fact it is pretty certain he will have to make decisions that work against him. But here's the thing, if he does get elected, there will be a huge number of "experienced" politicians that will realize that American voters are sick and tired of business as usual in Washington D.C. and that is a good thing.

Besides, as we learned from King George, even when the secret service whispers in your ear that the country is under attack, all you really need to do is remain seated and continue reading a children's book. Surely Obama has enough experience to handle that.

I'll be honest, 2 years in the senate and a handful of years in the Illinois State senate does not qualify someone to be president.

-No executive experience
-Very little national experience

Change is a great slogan, but how can you change something you know little about?


PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME RHETORIC, Give me an answer with some content.

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No executive experience
-Very little national experience

Where is Obama's National experience
Where is Obama's experience in military
Where is Obama's experience in economics

Willy
I hope Obamas experience in economics is better than McCains on the Savings and Loan scandle? Or have we all forgotten that?

I'll probably regret posting this, but what the heck-its a slow day at work!

I'm not an Obama supporter-but I'm not sure I'm a McCain supporter at this time either. This is probably the first election in a long time that I've taken the time to read up on both candidates getting info from lots of sources. Because let's be honest-the media tells us what they want us to hear. Sound bits and a few inches in a newspaper give us the reporters take on things and often leaves little room for us to make up our own minds.

True, Obabma doesn't have a lot of experience, but who does have experience to be president unless they have been president? I doubt there is any job, no matter how long one has done it, that would prepare someone for the presidency. And, to be honest, I'm not that impressed with what has been coming out of and going on in DC lately anyway. I voted for Bush-both times-but that doesn't mean I have agreed with everything this presidency has done. There are times when a fresh set of eyes and a new way of thinking can bring new prospective to a job. Experience is important, but at times experience can prejudice one against new ways of doing things. I may be wrong-but did Bush have a lot of foreien policy experience before becoming president? He had never even served in Congress-he was a governor. There could be an agrument that at least Obama has served at the national level vs the state only level. There are lots of arguments, pro and con, for both candidates. Forums like this allow a good exchange of ideas. But I would like everyone to be very carefully about making an "informed" opinon based on reporters less than objective reporting on either candidate. So let's see where this thread leads and while we may not be able to change one another's opinons, perhaps we'll all feel a little more informed when November roles around

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Where is Obama's National experience
Where is Obama's experience in military
Where is Obama's experience in economics

More so than McCain, Obama's VP pick will make a big difference. We will have to wait and see.

I do like his start...enlisting Elizabeth Edwards as a partner on Healthcare reform.

Obama is a very smart guy. Sometimes I think he is too smooth. His pick for VP will be gigantic and it won't surprise me to hear him making strong associations for all the cabinet posts as well, especially if the polling gets tight.

Bottom line, he is a smart guy without much baggage. If he assembles a "dream team" and avoids making some colossal blunder on the campaign trail, I think he is unbeatable.

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Originally posted by Dave R:
Willy
I hope Obamas experience in economics is better than McCains on the Savings and Loan scandle? Or have we all forgotten that?

Oh, I have reminded them...

Huzer, Dave, this is as Dave puts it I ask a Three question about Obama experience and both of you come back with BS answer Please answer the question,if you can, I have a decision to make this election and your answers so far will not convince me to vote for Obama.

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Bottom line, he is a smart guy without much baggage. If he assembles a "dream team" and avoids making some colossal blunder on the campaign trail, I think he is unbeatable.

Huzur,

I was hoping for something on the McGovern scale of defeat for Senator O, but I will settle for a Dukakis size loss.

McGovern lost every state ,and Dukakis was ahead of George H.Bush by 17% after the democrat convention.

Senator O might not carry the baggage of a carrer polititcan from, say Indiana, but he carries the baggage of a polititcian from Chicago,,,,Corrupt!

Anyway,todays Obamaism is a foloow up on yesterdays possible "Obamapology".

And it happened. Yesterday, Said Mr. Obama: "Everybody, you know, who is tangentially related to our campaign, I think, is going to have a whole host of relationships – I would have to hire the vetter to vet the vetters.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121314375651462773.html..._review_and_outlooks

Go to WSj online and read the full article ,about the 21 million a year Senator O's Veep looker was making ,and his connection as CEO of Fannie Mae for years to Countrywide financial ,an,,,hold on here for a minute.

Fannie Mae and Countrywide were 2 of the finanacial institutions that were "predatory lenders " that caused this financial crisis the banks are in .

Mr Johnson ,who is leading the Veep hunt for Senator O ,was CEO of Fannie Mae for years ,leading one to speculate........ he might be a weasel.

This is the kind of change coming to Washington via the Obammunists.

I think with the scandal of economics surrounding the insiders of Senator O's, we shall wat to stay close to this topic ,as it is breaking news ,and will surly have a congressional investigation coming soon......

Whats the chances of that happening ?

Once in an Obamamoon!

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Originally posted by mrwilly:
Huzer, Dave, this is as Dave puts it I ask a Three question about Obama experience and both of you come back with BS answer Please answer the question,if you can, I have a decision to make this election and your answers so far will not convince me to vote for Obama.

I am sorry you think my answer was BS. Maybe I was not clear enough. I just posted in the McCain thread that I am not interested in the right wing voters. I am interested in the independent voters, of which I imagine you are not a member. Vote how you like. Bring all the negative you can find against Obama. I need it to make a good decision.

I agree with you, Obama doesn't have as much experience in politics as McCain. He doesn't have as much life experience either since he is roughly half his age. He hasn't made any huge economic decisions either. Those are definately his weakest points. I think you hit them right on the head.

What I posted was that when I look at the RESULTS of McCain's time in politics and the RESULTS of McCain's life experience I am convinced that he is far and away the worst choice possible for President.

Am I happy with my options for President? Heck no. I would have liked an Edwards v. Paul matchup better. But that is me. What we all have to do is weigh things out.

If the worst thing about Obama is he hasn't been in federal government long enough to make the mistakes McCain has, then my decision is easy.

McCain returned from Iraq, and in a single-minded attempt to persuade you and me that everything is getting better there he told us a couple of big, undisputed lies. I am not OK with another liar of that magnitude in the White House.

Let me ask you this, suppose it is revealed that Obama had sent Rev. Wright a letter saying he supported all the racist, anti-American comments, would you post about that? Would you use that to support your argument that McCain is the better choice? Of course you would. The problem today is, that letter doesn't exist, but the video of McCain being caught in lie after lie does.

Isn't it ironic that the Republicans used to be founded on family values, religious morality, and fiscal responsibility, but this election their candidate doesn't hold the high ground on any of those. They will likely resort to some sort of "Swift boat" approach like before, but the voters aren't going to buy it again.

I am afraid the only thing that will save the day for John McSame is if Diebold works their magic, which sadly, is not that far fetched.

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Key member of Obama's VP committee steps aside

I read about this a couple days ago in an Irish blog. It seems foreign press are way ahead of U.S. nowadays, almost like we are living in a propagandist culture. I agree, Jim Johnson wasn't a great pick. Good thing he wasn't the campaign manager. (Oops, did I say that?)

I will be watching for top tier departures, similar to the many from McCain's campaign. If Obama's no.1 has to step aside (as McCain's has) it will cause me to reflect deeply. If this proves to be a trend, as it is for McCain, I will have to call it a draw.

At this point, one guy, serving on one prominent team among many within the campaign doesn't bother me too much, but it is worth watching. Thanks for the heads up.

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I am interested in the independent voters, of which I imagine you are not a member. Vote how you like. Bring all the negative you can find against Obama. I need it to make a good decision

More BS Huzur, give me a a candidate to vote for, If you have the guts, to do that, who are you wanting to represent the U.S, what IS THERE PLAN and what is it!!!!!!!!!!!

And your posts show your vision Jeff...

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