Talked to my lawyer friend. Looks like either State Police or the county probably handled the cases. You could always ask either for their records. They might be happy to have some assistance on a cold case. You also have the Freedom of Information Act. The reporters who wrote about the Ramsey case used this a ton to obtain their info. My friend said, at least for federal crimes, they have a confidential filing for only 25 years. If the state is the same, that statue of limitations is up.

I think it would be a great story for the Evening News to do. Consult with some crime scene investigators. Get the records. Find the perp.

I'm wondering if the killer could be a drifter...explains proximity to the woods/lake. Maybe you could check the data bases for similar crimes in other states. Seems like the perp has a definite M.O.

The same dna database that the State keeps for
all felons now, might be of some use if there
are any biological samples in the old evidence
file. If they made a match...BINGO.

Found this on a "ghost" website. It may be useful. Don't know if he is one of the victims.

"Before doing our investigation we visited with with one of our team member's relatives. The subject of Daniel Guthrie came up, since we told them why we were in the area. They told us that Dan Guthrie was just one victim in a string of murders in the Henryville area. They said he was not only buried once, but was also dug up again by his murderer and then burnt in a brush fire. They also confirmed that the creek bed beside the woods at the intersection is where they remembered him being buried the first time." From Sounthernindianaparanormal.blogspot.com.

quote:

Originally posted by The Smoky Backroom:
One was a boy found, as I recall, in a barn west of town on Henryville-Blue Lick Road. That happened in early 1973, as I recall. The other one happened about a year later. I have spoken (not lately) with people who were close to the investigation and they say the cases are not related. The first one was not close to being solved. They had a very good suspect for the second one but not enough evidence to get a conviction.

Smoky, do you know why it was felt the crimes
were unrelated. It seems we have been thinking of them as related but what you say needs to be
considered too. It's just that the superficial
similarities of the crimes in a small geographic
area or community make it seem like it would be
just one killer. Scary indeed to think there were more.

Is the Evening News looking at this thread?
I saw that one post proposed a story on this
old case. Is that being considered? It might
get more 'official response' if the news media
took up the story.

Good work 612! First place to look would be the library for the old news articles. Plus, we could get names of exactly who is doing the investigating. My law enforcement friend thinks it would have been State Police, but he's not sure.

Also, were the children sexually molested? If so, there is probably DNA evidence floating around in some old archives. Whether it is usable or not is the question.

Evening News should take up the story. The police department would be more apt to give them the records... plus they could do a Freedom of Information request, no problem. Otherwise, we could just track down all the info and figure out the culprit on this thread. Should be interesting work.

Olde Kingfish, me just didn't get off boat yesterday. Me been here. Me know Cowboy and his borther Cowpuncher also LW, DR, PW, TG, DA, RD, ................

I think Goliath will understand due to his/her previous posts and topices. We both have been around and seam to know some of the same people.

Actually, I am not sure I do understand. You are
joking by using 'goliath's' style of talking. As to the people, I am guessing LW and PW are
Larry and Peg Wilder, DA is Duard Avery, TG is
Tom Galligan etc., I have no idea who DR is. And
I was hoping to keep this thread focused on discussion of the killings and possible 'pooling' information. I am friendly and thank Kingfish for the nod. I propose we
'communicate' on the GIFMGWIFV thread and keep
this one on topic. Unless you have some cryptic
meaning in your post related to the case(s).

Thanks Goliath for the interpretation of the initials. I was starting to think Kingfish was trying to tell us other victims using initials. Very strange indeed.

Am going to try and go to the library 2morrow and do some research. I haven't used those newspaper research books in ages. I hope I remember.

The first murder was in '73. The second and third were in '77. They were not related.

ismileutoo, you are correct it would be very hard to convince the general public that these deaths are not related. Having said that, they are not related.

Not that I know of. You are correct in that the last two happened in '77. The smoky Backroom is pretty spot on with his info.

Awsome work Ismileutoo! Bubby, how do you know they are not related? Do you have any more info? It seems to me that if they are three separate murders, then the police should have had some decent leads in at least one of them. Maybe just not enough for a conviction... Do you think they could reexamine the cases now for some DNA?

Also, were all three separate incidents? Could they be copy cat crimes? Surely there is a give away. Do you have access to the records, by chance... or could you ask someone to reexamine these cases? Are they considered closed?

Thanks Bubby- you sound like just the person we need

612, Galligan, cowboy etc., almost certainly have nothing to do with it. That's why I asked
Kingfish to communciate about all that on the thread I started where they are 'characters' who
are involved.

As to what you heard about mutilation, I heard that too. In fact, I heard what happened frightened some of the cops who were investigating it. But, I do not know which
of the victims this was about. But, as to
the public facts, this is apparently not in
the mix.