Will Obama allow the other business owners on Spring Street to come out for the grand opening, or will his "people" tell them to stay away from the windows and stay inside?
Sorry, I know that's way old news but it still gripes my behind the way that press release was worded way back when

Putin said he was voting for Obama. . .So did Osama bin Laden!

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Originally posted by Thor:
Putin said he was voting for Obama. . .So did Osama bin Laden!

Well hell yea they will; NObama wants to disban the military. That is when Osama and Putin will invade.

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Boy, if I had a dollar for every time a politician used the word change

Did you see the jibjabs "Time for some Campaigning" cartoon? If not, then you should go see it. One part has Obama prancing through a Disney-like forest with little animals singing about change. It's hilarious.

And you guys will surely love the part where McCain runs over Obama with a tank.

it's at sendables.jibjab dot com

click on Election 2008 in the right hand column

I admit, I am torn between the dems and republicans. I am a military wife so I care a lot about a "military" candidate, but I am also a woman so I care about a "women's issues" candidate. In this case though I think the safety of our country and my husbands job outweighs the fact that Obama is pro choice

By the way, I'm about to own my 2nd home. Does that make me rich?!

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Originally posted by Details matter:
Magnificent B____, we won't necessarily know what most Americans believe on November 4th because a lot of Americans might not vote for anybody for President. I know that I won't. I will vote for other elective positions such as Governor and my Representative in Congress but I won't be voting for President. I don't like the choices.

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Magnificent B-----, I know that I have decided. I have decided not to vote for any of them. My point is that people won't know that a lot of people decided not to vote for anybody and so they won't know what most Americans believe. The media will just tell us who got the most votes. They won't mention the fact that a lot of people chose not to vote because they did not like any of the candidates.

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Originally posted by Beau1943:

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Originally posted by fragemall:

To which Team McCain quite rightly replied: At least the McCains paid for their houses, which invites the MSM to --finally-- take a close look at the Rezko-Obama deal and the long relationship behind it.

Let's put this picture into perspective.

Here’s what happened: In 2005, Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, bid $1.65 million for a house on the south side of Chicago. Owners were asking $1.8 million. The owners also owned a lot next to the RE they want to sell at the same time. Obama made a bid on the home and the owners accepted it if Obama would buy the lot also.

Obama could not afford both. He was wanting to purchased the home with sales from his books and a mortgage loan. He was not interested in buying the lot.

According to newspaper reports, the owner wanted to sell the undeveloped parcel of land adjacent to the property Obama was buying, and he wanted the sales of the two to close on the same day.

Obama has said that he mentioned he was buying the house to a Tony Rezko, a developer. Rezko’s wife wound up buying the lot adjacent to Obama’s. A normal RE investment for the Rezo's.

At the request of the Obamas, who were seeking a bit more space for their yard, she later sold them a 10-foot wide strip, or about one-sixth, of her land. The Obamas paid $104,500 for it, or about one-sixth of what Mrs. Rezko had paid for the entire property. Nothing irregular here.

There was nothing wrong our unusual in the transaction. Obama says he regrets the deal only because Rezko was involved. Rezko is a well known political contributor in the Chicago area and has contributed to all politicians in the area.....

The facts remain that McCain has been involved and/or had closer relationships to many shady characters. Remember Keating 5......the chief investigator of the Keating 5 incident says McCain should have been indicted for his actions during the investigation.....

Enough on this subject.

Why is it always "enough on this subject" when it's bad for Obama.

The Republican's have handed the presidency, super majority in the senate, and an extend lead in the house to the Democrats. Only a political neophite can screw this up. Thats what exactly Obama is doing.

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Originally posted by Winston Wolf:

Let me get this right. You think a terrible economy, jobs lost, stock market indexes reduced in value since 2000, high energy costs, no health insurance, inflation rising quickly, National debt of 9.6 trillion, invading the wrong county to fight terrorism, the 9/11 terrorist leader still not caught, tax breaks for the rich and large corporations, highest foreclosure rate since the depression, average wages of Americans declining, the rich getting richer and the poor or middle class getting poorer and all happening under the Republican watch is good?

I guess we look at things differently. I see things as they are, not the way Rush Limbaugh or other conservative talking heads tell me to think or believe. Do you believe only what you want to believe whether it is fact or not?

A vote for McCain will be a vote for Bush, so if your happy with the shape our country is in...then vote for McCain. If your happy with the no-win cival/religeous war in Iraq that we never should have started in the 1'st place, no 911 ties and no wmd's. If your happy with the devasted economy, record gas prices, soaring healthcare, record home forclosures, a record defecit...than vote for John McCain, if your not happy, like me, vote for Obama. Its not that hard to figure out, huh?

The next following posts are factual information concerning McCain or our current state.

First McCain voting record 2007/2008 - you have to ask:

No Child Left Behind - Against - How do you vote no to education of our children.

* McCain voted in support of medical savings accounts that shift costs and risks to working families (April 18, 1996). - Great, I need more risks and costs.
* McCain voted against a resolution amendment, which stated that Congress should reject any Social security plan requiring deep benefit cuts or massive increase in debt (March 15, 2005). - Great, lets not restrict debt or cutting benefits.
* McCain voted against a bill to protect employees and retirees from practices that deprive them of their earnings and retirement savings when a business files for bankruptcy (March 3, 2005). -- nice.

* Second Farm, Nutrition, and Bioenergy Act of 2007 (Farm Bill) HR 6124 - No Vote

* Defense Department FY 2007 Authorization bill - Voted Yes. Large cost, $505 Billion.

*HR 5140: To provide economic stimulus through recovery rebates to individuals, incentives for business investment, and an increase in conforming and FHA loan limits. Vote yes - Gives a tax rebate, increases the debt, which we borrow from China, then we get to pay back the tax rebate to China at 4% interest. Sweet - my kids will get to pay China for my 2008 tax rebate.

63 Bills concerning, Budget, Spending and Taxes, McCain did not vote 54 times (over 85%). He didnt vote on 7 agricultural and energy bills for 2007/2008. On Business and Consumers bills, again 35 out of 42 bills (over 80%) in which he didnt vote.

Is he coming to work or a non-decision maker? How do you NO VOTE over 85% of the time, I guess he is not a decision maker. That's what we need, a president who cannot make a decision.

With his voting record, we have no way of knowing what the heck he stands for, if you dont vote, you dont have to worry about making a stand.

Study: Most companies avoid income taxes
GAO report says both U.S. owned and foreign corporations dodge levy
updated 5:57 a.m. ET, Tues., Aug. 12, 2008 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26145921/?GT1=43001
WASHINGTON - Unlike the rest of us, most U.S. corporations and foreign companies doing business in the United States pay no federal income tax, according to a new report from Congress.
The study by the Government Accountability Office released Tuesday said two-thirds of U.S. corporations paid no federal income taxes between 1998 and 2005, and about 68 percent of foreign companies doing business in the U.S. avoided corporate taxes over the same period.
Collectively, the companies reported trillions of dollars in sales, according to GAO's estimate.
"It's shameful that so many corporations make big profits and pay nothing to support our country," said Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., who asked for the GAO study with Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.
An outside tax expert, Chris Edwards of the libertarian Cato Institute in Washington, said increasing numbers of limited liability corporations and so-called "S" corporations pay taxes under individual tax codes.
"Half of all business income in the United States now ends up going through the individual tax code," Edwards said.
The GAO study did not investigate why corporations weren't paying federal income taxes or corporate taxes and it did not identify any corporations by name. It said companies may escape paying such taxes due to operating losses or because of tax credits.
More than 38,000 foreign corporations had no tax liability in 2005 and 1.2 million U.S. companies paid no income tax, the GAO said. Combined, the companies had $2.5 trillion in sales. About 25 percent of the U.S. corporations not paying corporate taxes were considered large corporations, meaning they had at least $250 million in assets or $50 million in receipts.
The GAO said it analyzed data from the Internal Revenue Service, examining samples of corporate returns for the years 1998 through 2005. For 2005, for example, it reviewed 110,003 tax returns from among more than 1.2 million corporations doing business in the U.S.
Dorgan and Levin have complained about companies abusing transfer prices — amounts charged on transactions between companies in a group, such as a parent and subsidiary. In some cases, multinational companies can manipulate transfer prices to shift income from higher to lower tax jurisdictions, cutting their tax liabilities. The GAO did not suggest which companies might be doing this.
"It's time for the big corporations to pay their fair share," Dorgan said.

If you really want to know what is happening in America read the following. I know it is difficult reading numbers but if you want to know why we need change desperately in America read closely. This is fact and not lies and innuendos sent out by extreme right wingers about Obama.
The reason the following information is important. The work force is who needs to be spending the money to push the economy and GDP. The top 10% of the workforce is making almost 50% of the revenue. That top 10% cannot sustain the GDP. Look at the bottom 50% again. ONE HALF OF THE AMERICAN WORK FORCE DOES NOT AVERAGE ENOUGH IN SALARY TO BUY ANYTHING BEYOND NECESSITIES. And even buying necessities is a stretch.

So when gas costs jump 25- 50% in costs, it hits 50% of the work force hard. When food jumps 10 to 20% in cost, it hits 50% of the work force the hardest.

The work force needs to drive the economy, thus changes have to be made along corporate America and the government to get this disparity reversed. The following link discusses how the upper class salary has risen 47%, the other classes have risen substantially less.

http://progressivemaryland.org/public/documents/CLIPS-P...venotsgulfwidens.pdf

There are approximately 152,000,000 workers. AGI was $7,507,958,000,000 for an average of $49,394.

The top 1%, their AGI equates to $1,591,711,000,000, 1.5 million workers, average income $1,000,000

The top 5%, their AGI equates to $2,683,934,000,000, 7.6 million workers, includes above, average income $ 353,149.

Top 50% of Americans, their AGI was $6,544,824,000,000, includes 76 million workers, average income - $86,116.

Bottom 50% of Americans, their AGI was 963,134,000,000, includes the other 76 million workers, average income - $12,317.