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Listen now for God says rejoice all of you, brothers and sisters, children and fathers, mothers and daughters for this is your day, this is your day to say, "I will do it, I will do the things that God has finally told me to do."

And God says as one door closes I will have another door open for you! Do not be discouraged oh, Christian at these elections, for God is doing something in your times that you never thought possible. That you never thought could happen in your lifetime.

The Spirit of God says the children, the youth shall start a spiritual atmosphere all over the globe for they have felt the pain of their parents past, but they are going to change their hearts, minds and attitudes and say, "We can make a difference in this nation. We will see the change, we will do it for America!"

God says, as Joshua said, "We are strong and courageous, we will serve the Lord." And so shall your President! And you shall say, "We do not believe this man, we are frightened of him."

God says there is no one more than him, Mr. Obama, that wants to protect and guide and save this nation from the chaos and wreck and hope and bring America back to the place it has been so many days ago.

God says, Venezuela if you continue in your radical ways if you keep this up there will be something done to you. Your exports shall be taken away!

God says church, do not be afraid to vote, do not be afraid to call out on the Lord and say, "Who have you chosen for this nation?"

For God says, "I have given the people a choice."

And I have seen the future ahead of me and God has placed in me a vision of America. And in this vision record numbers, record numbers in every state turning out to vote.

God says, your day is coming your day is coming America where you shall say, "Worthy is the Lamb, worthy is Messiah, worthy is His saints."

For don't you know that peace and prosperity and comfort is signs of the fruits of the Spirit.

And God says listen now, the economy shall bend and break until the man I place in the White House comes! Then you shall see the rising of the economy again.

I have used Nebuchadnezzar as My servant, I have used the Pharaohs as My servants and I shall use your President who you would call someone as of him. As a Pharaoh or as a Nebuchadnezzar. And I shall use him to fulfill My purposes on the earth, says the Spirit of the Lord.
 
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God says there is no one more than him, Mr. Obama, that wants to protect and guide and save this nation from the chaos and wreck and hope and bring America back to the place it has been so many days ago.


Drat! I always suspected God was a Democrat!
 
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Pate, I just want you to know you're very cool to me and I honor your service to this nation.

Go vote for your man. That's what's so awesome about America!

God is neither Dem. or Rep. Wink

Happy Sabbath!

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Thank you, Joshua. To be considered "cool" by one of your generation is pretty nifty!

 
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Pate, hi five right back at cha!
 
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Saturday, October 11, 2008

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Today is your day to know that you have spiritual security in Christ to know that you have not fallen short of His glory no matter who you may be if you are in Him He is in you!

For the Lord God says today, open up your eyes and see the future for America.

For God says October! This month shall be the surprise for the election for November and as you've seen it happen before you are going to begin to see the signs that He is coming, He is coming!

God says this shall take place so America can know who the real leader is of this Universe. And I promise you this, the lies and deceit are bogus about My man that I have chosen for President.

And I tell you now have peace in your heart, peace in your mind and have an attitude and understands what faith is, faith that moves mountains, change that brings about substance not just talks of wind.

God says today Pakistan you are going to be a part of the capture of terrorists all around the globe, because you are going to be an alley. And God says if you do not we will come in and take them out ourselves!

God says today Barack, Barack Obama, I have felt you, I have heard you, I know you and I know your heart. I am going to wipe out the impurities that are in there and make you a man like Solomon whose land increased and prospered and fulfilled and multiplied.

And as Moses was not able to enter the Promise Land their shall be Joshua's that shall help you to hear the Voice of the God of the Universe!

God says the mountains shall shake and tremble at the sound of the Voice of the Lord. God says don't you know that now is the time when the sons of God are being revealed on the Earth just as was spoken of in Scripture.

I shall take them out of this world and you will know that I am the One who is in charge and My servants listen and obey Me, say the Lord.

Oh yeah, this is what Secrets is sensing the Lord saying, chick, chick, chickadee! Wink
 
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God says, your day is coming your day is coming America where you shall say, "Worthy is the Lamb, worthy is Messiah, worthy is His saints."
And it isn't NObama.


For don't you know that peace, and prosperity and comfort is are signs of the fruits of the Spirit.
I bet the apostles and prophets of the Bible are feeling gypped about now! They were by no means wealthy. Look at John the Baptist who baptized Jesus. He lived in the wilderness, wore animal skins, scrounged around for locust and honey. So why should we be wealthy today just because we are Christian? God never promised earthly wealth. Quite the opposite. Matthew 6:19 "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

And God says listen now, the economy shall bend and break until the man I place in the White House comes! Then you shall see the rising of the economy again.
Okay, I hope you are just joking around now.

I have used Nebuchadnezzar as My servant He went crazy and grazed with the cattle for a few years. , I have used the Pharaohs as My servants yes, and when he was done with them he drowned them while crossing the Sea. and I shall use your President who you would call someone as of him. As a Pharaoh or as a Nebuchadnezzar. And I shall use him to fulfill My purposes on the earth, says the Spirit of the Lord.
 
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So why should we be wealthy today just because we are Christian? God never promised earthly wealth.


What about Job? Job 42:12 The Lord blessed the latter part of Job's life more than the first. He had fourteen thousand sheep, six thousand camels, a thousand yoke of oxen and a thousand donkeys.

What about Abraham? Gen 24:1 Abraham was now old and well advanced in years, and the Lord had blessed him in every way.

Gen 24:35 The Lord has blessed my master abundantly, and he has become wealthy. He has given him sheep and cattle, silver and gold, menservants and maidservants, and camels and donkeys.

What about Isaac? Gen 26:12 Isaac planted crops in that land and the same year reaped a hundredfold, because the Lord blessed him.

What about Joeseph? Gen 39:5 From the time he put him in charge of his household and of all that he owned, the Lord blessed the household of the Egyptian because of Joseph. The blessing of the Lord was on everything Potiphar had, both in the house and in the field.

Eph 1:3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.

Prosperity

Job 22:21 "Submit to God and be at peace with him; in this way prosperity will come to you.

Psalm 106:4 Remember me, O Lord, when you show favor to your people, come to my aid when you save them, 5 that I may enjoy the prosperity of your chosen ones, that I may share in the joy of your nation and join your inheritance in giving praise.

Proverbs 3:1 My son, do not forget my teaching,
but keep my commands in your heart, 2 for they will prolong your life many years and bring you prosperity.

DRUMROLL PLEASE>>>>>>>>DRUMROLL PLEASE<<<<<<<<<<

Pro 13:21 Misfortune pursues the sinner, but prosperity is the reward of the righteous.

Pro 21:21 He who pursues righteousness and love finds life, prosperity and honor.
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Comfort

1Cor 14:3 But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort.

2Cor 1:5 For just as the sufferings of Christ flow over into our lives, so also through Christ our comfort overflows.

Mat 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.

Tell me when you want to continue...
 
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Where have all the tomatoes gone? Red Face

They ran away with their tails between their legs.
 
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The fact that John the Baptist and Paul were not materially wealthy, among others, proves that wealth is not a guarantee to believers.

Man preaches the "health and wealth gospel," not Christ.

P.S. Some of us sleep at night.
 
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Paul chose to live this way, as a tentmaker.

John the Baptist came from a wealthy family most likely under Zechariah's house.

It could be said of Jesus that he owned everything and yet had nothing.

Their is nothing wrong with God blessing a wise and obedient person or family with wealth. As above ^ I believe God does not want to see his children suffer to make ends meat.

Matthew 6:26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?

When people are blessed by God, we should not think of them as non-believers just because they have been blessed for their good deeds and wise decisions.

I don't believe in the con-artists that say get rich quick, but if I saw someone who lived under the authority of God, believe me God indeed wants to bless His children and provide for them.

We don't need to go running around in the woods looking for locusts and honey to eat.

If we understand that everything we have is God's and he can give and take at any time, we know that we are simply managing what he has already given us.

Some want to be nazirites, others not, some want to be nuns or monks others not, some want to study and learn, others want to use their blessings to bless others, and I feel the more this is done the more he will continue to bless.

Queen Esther, Lydia, all had roles in the faith. Wealthy but used it for a divine purpose.
 
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So why should we be wealthy today just because we are Christian? God never promised earthly wealth.


What about Job? Job 42:12 The Lord blessed the latter part of Job's life more than the first. He had fourteen thousand sheep, six thousand camels, a thousand yoke of oxen and a thousand donkeys.

What about Abraham? Gen 24:1 Abraham was now old and well advanced in years, and the Lord had blessed him in every way.

Gen 24:35 The Lord has blessed my master abundantly, and he has become wealthy. He has given him sheep and cattle, silver and gold, menservants and maidservants, and camels and donkeys.

What about Isaac? Gen 26:12 Isaac planted crops in that land and the same year reaped a hundredfold, because the Lord blessed him.

What about Joeseph? Gen 39:5 From the time he put him in charge of his household and of all that he owned, the Lord blessed the household of the Egyptian because of Joseph. The blessing of the Lord was on everything Potiphar had, both in the house and in the field.

Eph 1:3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.

Prosperity

Job 22:21 "Submit to God and be at peace with him; in this way prosperity will come to you.

Psalm 106:4 Remember me, O Lord, when you show favor to your people, come to my aid when you save them, 5 that I may enjoy the prosperity of your chosen ones, that I may share in the joy of your nation and join your inheritance in giving praise.

Proverbs 3:1 My son, do not forget my teaching,
but keep my commands in your heart, 2 for they will prolong your life many years and bring you prosperity.

DRUMROLL PLEASE>>>>>>>>DRUMROLL PLEASE<<<<<<<<<<

Pro 13:21 Misfortune pursues the sinner, but prosperity is the reward of the righteous.

Pro 21:21 He who pursues righteousness and love finds life, prosperity and honor.
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Comfort

1Cor 14:3 But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort.

2Cor 1:5 For just as the sufferings of Christ flow over into our lives, so also through Christ our comfort overflows.

Mat 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.

Tell me when you want to continue...


I notice you only quote OT promises of Prosperity, so do you live under the law or under Christ? Or are you perhaps one of those that choose only the things of the law that seem to be beneficial to you and deny the rest?
This would make you a hypocrite like the Pharisees that Jesus spoke of.

Are YOU financially rich? Perhaps you should share with some of the thousands of people damaged by hurricanes or those starving in other parts of the world.

IF You do not work the NT says you should not eat. Do you believe the new Testament?


Give to the needy, help the hurting, lead the lost, know the Master.
 
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Where have all the tomatoes gone? Red Face

They ran away with their tails between their legs.
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Chick, apparently you are used to a chat screen. A forum is different. It isn't 'live' where you have to grab something before it's gone. Your hubby's remarks to Bumpkinto will still be here when he has a chance to return from the priorities in life. Do try to be patient. Smiler

By the way, Bump, I agree w/what you say. GOD's promise to us of blessings isn't in earthly possessions. Granted, when we give monetarily we are blessed, but again, not always financially. This new age teaching of prosperity is one more walk further away from the true teachings of Christ.
 
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By the way, Bump, I agree w/what you say. GOD's promise to us of blessings isn't in earthly possessions. Granted, when we give monetarily we are blessed, but again, not always financially. This new age teaching of prosperity is one more walk further away from the true teachings of Christ.


True words Sandra and I agree fully. I had some questions for Joshua that I will repost because I would like to see a real answer from him, I hope this doesn't seem impolite to you do not mean to step on your ongoing discussion. I think it is difficult for those deceived by the "prosperity gospel" (which has nothing to do with the gospel) to answer the type questions I am asking because they are brainwashed to think that if they aren't rich, they just haven't "believed" enough to get rich.
It has seemed clear to me all along that Joshua has made numerous attempts to deceive enough people to start getting money from them and his hopes for riches are based on making enough guesses that he finally gets one right that convinces people that he is a prophet of God and will give him money they way they do his heroes.

Again I ask Joshua; Are your financially Rich?

If you have millions of dollars, do you give to the relief and hunger organizations?

Do you have any income other than what you can take from people or human services?


Give to the needy, help the hurting, lead the lost, know the Master.
 
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