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Has anyone thought about this question to any degree?

Who is a true Christian? Can an non Christian make that judgment? How about a Christian?

Any insight?
 
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To be a Christian is just to accept Christ as one's personal Savior and follow his teachings to the best of one's ability.

A true Christian has two commandments that cover everything:

Love God
Love one's neighbor as oneself
 
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But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His. - Romans 8:9
 
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But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His. - Romans 8:9


That is a good scripture, LD.
 
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To be a Christian is just to accept Christ as one's personal Savior and follow his teachings to the best of one's ability.

A true Christian has two commandments that cover everything:

Love God
Love one's neighbor as oneself


Look at LD's post. Read Galatians and listen to some messages by Dr. Barnhouse.

The Christian life is not about trying to follow teachings it is about life in the Sprit.

Of course that is not to say we do not try to follow Jesus Teachings, Jesus said, I am the way, the Truth and The Life, no man comes to the Father but by me.
 
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Originally posted by bobbingcorks:
To be a Christian is just to accept Christ as one's personal Savior and follow his teachings to the best of one's ability.

A true Christian has two commandments that cover everything:

Love God
Love one's neighbor as oneself


Look at LD's post. Read Galatians and listen to some messages by Dr. Barnhouse.

The Christian life is not about trying to follow teachings it is about life in the Sprit.

Of course that is not to say we do not try to follow Jesus Teachings, Jesus said, I am the way, the Truth and The Life, no man comes to the Father but by me.
Uh, yeah, whatever you want to call it is fine with me.

I just try to follow Jesus' teachings and those two commandments, I'm not a Pentecostal. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
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To be a Christian is just to accept Christ as one's personal Savior and follow his teachings to the best of one's ability.

A true Christian has two commandments that cover everything:

Love God
Love one's neighbor as oneself


Dreamin', if you don't accept the simplicity of this answer, then you need to define your question more to what you are expecting.

Christ said we are to come to Him as a little child, and have that kind of faith. First the milk. That is the acceptance of Christ. Then the pablum. That would be realizing who we are in Christ, and making that known to all.

Then comes the meat, the maturity of a Christian. One who walks the walk and talks the talk. As much as we would like to think we have arrived there, I suspect very few of us have. But this, we should strive for. To have more of Him and less of ourselves.
 
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It is the manner of our striving that I was talking about. If we strive to walk in the spirit, we will not follow the lawlessness of the flesh. If we strive to follow the law, we operate in the power of self and not via the power of the Spirit.

The law brings a curse, Jesus removed the curse and provides a means for us to walk in the Spirit.

No one has the power to even fulfill the two commandments A true Christian has two below in the flesh.

The works of the flesh, the nature of the carnal mind is in opposition to the law of God, it cannot follow God. That is why we have Jesus and access to the Holy Spirit.

I am not saying one who accepts Christ and tries to walk in the law via the flesh is not saved. THat is another matter entirely.



commandments that cover everything:

Love God
Love one's neighbor as oneself
 
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I don't think I want to discuss this topic with you after I just read all the names you called several other people who disagree with you. I think maybe you should get your own house in order before you start talking about what a true Christian is.

A true Christian would ask forgiveness for the names you posted, I was appalled at the words you chose to attack other people. It was very unChristian of you.
 
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Originally posted by bobbingcorks:
To be a Christian is just to accept Christ as one's personal Savior and follow his teachings to the best of one's ability.

A true Christian has two commandments that cover everything:

Love God
Love one's neighbor as oneself


Dreamin', if you don't accept the simplicity of this answer, then you need to define your question more to what you are expecting.

Christ said we are to come to Him as a little child, and have that kind of faith. First the milk. That is the acceptance of Christ. Then the pablum. That would be realizing who we are in Christ, and making that known to all.

Then comes the meat, the maturity of a Christian. One who walks the walk and talks the talk. As much as we would like to think we have arrived there, I suspect very few of us have. But this, we should strive for. To have more of Him and less of ourselves.


I like your answer. I have pondered all of this for years and continue to strive to grow in Christ. I find, like Paul, the good that I would do, I can't and cry out

" Who will deliver me from sin and death?" In the mids of despair Jesus arives with a helping hand, via the Holy Spirit, and as I look to him, my answer is the same as that of the great apostle.

I thank God, that my lord Jesus Christ has deliverd me from the law of sin and death.

There is the law of the spirit of Life in Christ Jesus and the law of sin and death.

Trying to fulfill commandments lead only to sin and death. Looking to Jesus, giving thanks to him, and waiting on him, sets us free to walk in the Spirit.
 
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Originally posted by bobbingcorks:
To be a Christian is just to accept Christ as one's personal Savior and follow his teachings to the best of one's ability.

A true Christian has two commandments that cover everything:

Love God
Love one's neighbor as oneself


Dreamin', if you don't accept the simplicity of this answer, then you need to define your question more to what you are expecting.

Christ said we are to come to Him as a little child, and have that kind of faith. First the milk. That is the acceptance of Christ. Then the pablum. That would be realizing who we are in Christ, and making that known to all.

Then comes the meat, the maturity of a Christian. One who walks the walk and talks the talk. As much as we would like to think we have arrived there, I suspect very few of us have. But this, we should strive for. To have more of Him and less of ourselves.
I agree with this, it is going to be different for each person as to how they accomplish it.
 
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I don't think I want to discuss this topic with you after I just read all the names you called several other people who disagree with you. I think maybe you should get your own house in order before you start talking about what a true Christian is.

A true Christian would ask forgiveness for the names you posted, I was appalled at the words you chose to attack other people. It was very unChristian of you.


I apologized to MG for saying something to her. Bridge, I was trying to show him what he was trapped in so he would seek repentance. I do not believe in mincing words to a great degree.

I had a bit of fun with Gore and Bobcat, perhaps they were serious.

If you can point me to anything else, I sure will pray and see if there is a conviction there. I am only human and can get irascible at times.

I even said something to make upset my good friend SJ. I try to find a balance between being strong and truthful and trying to avoid being milquetoast.
 
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Well if this was a joke I think you need to go to them and tell them that because this is really ugly and your posts proceed to get uglier from here: this is in polictics, I think O'Reilly or Proposition 8, I can't remember.



You said: "Bobcat, you pitiful pack of evil, you could not hold a candle to my credentials or ability and certainly will never match my character.

You are a pathetic little flesh pot who is storing up the wrath of God for all eternity. Neither you nor Bridgview make any sense in your arguments impress no one but yourself. In your present state you are such a loathsome and piteous little creature, lost in your lust, and the vanity of your carnal mind that nothing you say is of any merit or value. I consider your insults an honor.

But guess what, I was the same before I was saved. The miracle of the Grace of God dispensed through Jesus Christ is so marvelous that he save a wretch like you."
 
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I know without doubt the answer to this question.Jesus was the only one ever.We are all just trying.
 
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I don't think I want to discuss this topic with you after I just read all the names you called several other people who disagree with you. I think maybe you should get your own house in order before you start talking about what a true Christian is.

A true Christian would ask forgiveness for the names you posted, I was appalled at the words you chose to attack other people. It was very unChristian of you.



Are you appalled that I call a gay person a sinner? I am an equal opportunity offender. I will call an adulterer a sinner as well.

You see, people do tend to create their own little gods and serve them and try to enshrine them and give them credibility and therby avoid seeing the sin and rebelliion in their own lives.

If you notice, I have been attacked severely on this board for taking a moral stand on some issues.
 
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