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Old Pro |
1. Nobody knows or knew Billy Ayers. I'm something of a Sixties-phile, & Ayers only hit my radar briefly in 1980, about the time John Lennon was assassinated, when Ayers & his equally-nobody wife turned themselves in & didn't serve any time in jail.
2. Ayers' most prominent activity was funded by the Annenberg Foundation. Now, nobody remembers Annenberg, but the few of us who do know Walter Annenberg was famously Ronald Reagan's best billionaire friend. Like Ayers, Reagan's from Illinois; perhaps Annenberg was, too. But nobody remembers Annenberg, who funded Ayers. 3. The Weather UnderGround itself was a forgettable organization. Somewhere I have an old Sixties book, maybe by Jerry Rubin, dedicated to the WeatherMen. Almost anybody who remembers the WeatherMen is a Bob Dylan fan (see Subterranean HomeSick Blues), & Dylan fans are long past worrying about them, if they ever did. 4. Hillary Clinton brought up Ayers in the first place, aided & abetted in the nationally-televised ABC debate by George Stephanopolous. Stephanopolous is widely viewed as a Hillary hack. Hillary herself worked for a radical law firm in the streets of San Francisco's early Seventies that defended Black Panther Huey Newton & other Communist/Marxists like the Viet Cong that John McCain now calls his friends. 5. Ayers is a despicable rich kid born, like John S McCain III & George W Bush Jr, w/ a silver foot in his mouth. Everybody who looks at Ayers knows his dad, President of Commonwealth Edison, is the reason he wound up living in Hyde Park w/ a cushy job at the University of Chicago. Ayers is just one more example of America's filthy rich taking advantage of the system to the detriment of the larger country. What else is new? 6. Chicago ain't the East Coast. Had Billy Ayers been an East Coast radical, particularly from Taxachusetts or New Yawk, his notoriety might've gotten more play. But the SDS came out of the U of Michigan -- another reason why SDS has been largely forgotten (not deservedly; SDS has been deservedly forgotten for being spoiled lily-white rich kids; see Reason Five). The USA has a long-respected history of hating the Hartford Conventioneers, the prissy Adamses, & Franklin Pierce, right up thru Michael Dukakis & John "Mr French" Kerry. But Chicago, warts & all, is as American as sweet-potato pie. |
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Ref. Heading: I tell ya -- it stuck thicker than cold syrup to me!!!!! [and many others I know] |
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Free Time |
It's just another trumped up charge that the Right-Wing Nuts can throw at Obama. It's no different than any other election with the GOP divide & conquer tactics except this time the nuts are yelling louder than usual & there are death threats involved which can only be attributed to the race factor which is whipping the crowds into an ever more fervant frenzy. This is why I only argue the issues because these personal attacks only garner hate.
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Free Time |
And your response shows there are nuts on both sides of the debate. Ayers is a legitimate debate topic for one reason. It goes to the core of Obama's true beliefs by the people and organizations he chooses to associate himself with and the agenda they represent. Which has been totally covered up by the pro Obama media.
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Old Pro |
Then deal with the issue!! -- The issue is: Obama DOES have a shady past and the issue is having someone of character, for a change, leading our nation!! By his ties to these various "underground" efforts [from his differing questionable religion ties to support of Acorn etc.] --- and not to mention having been a drug user for some time [good judgement?]{and on and on} makes him very questionable in my mind !! --- no matter even if he MIGHT SEEM to be real on some things !!
[If it looks like a Duck, quacks like a Duck,-- but smells like a hog lot ---- then I at LEAST know it's been ROLLING in the hog ~~~~!!] This message has been edited. Last edited by: OBSERVER, |
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Old Pro |
John McCain has a shady past, tossing America's economic security into turmoil by palling around w/ the likes of Charles Keating whose Scandal rocked our nation & forced billions of dollars in bailouts similar to that the Congress has done again for AIG.
When Obama was nine Billy & Bernadine went underground. After resurfacing when Ronald Reagan was first elected, they didn't go to jail because they were rich white kids just like John McCain. Neither The OBSERVER nor JohnHenrySmith knew who Billy Ayers was during the long hard Nineties & Eighties. Nor, for that matter, did Barack Obama know "who" they were; they were that insignificant. Giving these pathetic losers any serious attention in this day & age is unpatriotic. They aren't even has-beens. Wanna talk terrorism? McCain's ties to the World Council of "Freedom" whose membership ran rife w/ Nazis & death squads in Central America are a matter of record, as is McCain's support for the terrorist contras in Nicaragua who for years tried to overthrow the government of then-President Daniel Ortega, re-elected President of that country a couple years ago again. When and if an interoceanic Canal is built thru Nicaragua (God's already done 80% of the work Himself), the beneficiaries are most likely to be Russia & China thanks to McCain's unpatriotic piece of work in supporting terrorism against Ortega. |
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Old Pro |
has beens??? -- Ayers is STILL spewing his "we didn't blow up enough" crap!!!!
[and wants to teach it in his schools -- which Obama helped shove money into] |
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Review Reason Two, dear OBSERVER. The Great Funder was Walter Annenberg, Ronald Reagan's best friend & Dick Nixon's handpicked Ambassador to Great Britain.
Billy & Bernadine (why don't the wacko media ever mention her?) are never-weres, not even rising to the level of has-beens. Some Washington insiders around here are circulating a DVD called "Weather UnderGround" about their so-called Sixties golden years, when they expected tens of thousands to show in Chicago for the Days of Rage & instead led a motley crew of 125 to smash a few glass windows. Check it out. Don't worry about Whitey; stick to fearing Las Maras SalvaTruchas aka MS-13, if you want to be afraid of someone who can really do some damage. Rest assured Obama will break las maras once he's disabled Bin Laden. |
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Free Time |
You can continue and justify Obama and his "shady" cast of characters, associations, core beliefs, etc.
I would be willing to say, you would not be taking the same approach or defense posture if these allegations and accusations were made of GOP ticket, quite the opposite I suspect. One other point, with an Obama administration, Osama can continue on without fear of "being disabled." Quite the opposite again. |
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Old Pro |
Your man Mitch Daniels' GOP is not the Party of Lincoln. We who've been Republicans since the Civil War have seen our party dismayingly diverted down the dead-end street of the Southern Strategy for short-term political gain that's lasted about as long as the Calhoun wing of the Democrat Party did pre-Civil War. We've all seen plainly that John McCain associates himself w/ radical right-wing high priests like John Hagee & convicted criminals G Gordon Liddy & Charles Keating. He coddled the contra terrorists in Nicaragua. McCain joined the Nazi-laden Council for World "Freedom" that sought to harm Israel. His own would-be Vice-President Palin palled around w/ the separatist Alaska Independence Party that would secede from America & re-start the Civil War; her husband Todd was a card-carrying member until recently resigning in shame. If John McCain were honest, he'd admit that guilt-by-association is little more than a slippery slope. Or he'd stand up to Obama face-to-face in their debates & try to drag Barack into the mud-pit of divisiveness rather than talk behind his back in cowardly fashion, reminding of some who used to hide behind masks when burning crosses. The truth is McCain knows he's losing the hearts & minds of the American people & is erratically grasping at straws to gain a few bobbleheaded votes. But for every bigot McCain gains, there are two fair-minded independents that lean toward Obama. |
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Old Pro |
Now we're getting to your REAL topic in your mind!!!!! We all just new you wouldn't be racially biased in any way for any reason!!!  |
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As a true-blue Washingtonian, dear OBSERVER, you know as well as I that our town has always stood for fairness & freedom. Plus we stick up for our own -- & Illinois is a fair sight closer to Indiana than the desert of Arizona, the swamps of Panama, & the frozen unfertile Alaskan tundra are.
Voting for a fellow heartlander, be he or she red-or-yellow-black-or-white, just makes sense. So just do it (I already have). |
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Old Pro |
I guess past ties to Hawaii and Kenya would sound better!!! --  [not to mention that fair uncorrupt city of Chicago] |
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Free Time |
Too bad Obama won't be honest about what he really believes. Instead we get the master of misrepresentation and deceit. The darkness will be exposed in the light very soon. Too bad for America. His record sheds volumes to those beliefs and his vision for "change."
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Old Pro |
One thing about Obamamaniacs -- they're known to reach across the aisle.
In that spirit I'll say this for John McCain: Too bad George Bush & racism in South Carolina beat him in 2000. In those younger days he likely would've gotten my vote instead of Ralph Nader, who did. Our country should never nominate Vice-Presidents nor Sons of Presidents for the top office (nor wives of Presidents nor Senators, for that matter). |
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