(sez pat buchanan)-

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2117213/posts

What does the triumvirate of Obama-Pelosi-Reid offer?

Rep. Barney Frank is calling for new tax hikes on the most successful and a 25 percent across-the-board slash in national defense. Sen. John Kerry is talking up new and massive federal spending, a la FDR's New Deal. Specifically, we can almost surely expect:

-- Swift amnesty for 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens and a drive to make them citizens and register them, as in the Bill Clinton years. This will mean that Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona will soon move out of reach for GOP presidential candidates, as has California.

-- Border security will go on the backburner, and America will have a virtual open border with a Mexico of 110 million.

-- Taxes will be raised on the top 5 percent of wage-earners, who now carry 60 percent of the U.S. income tax burden, and tens of millions of checks will be sent out to the 40 percent of wage-earners who pay no federal income tax. Like the man said, redistribute the wealth, spread it around.

-- Social Security taxes will be raised on the most successful among us, and capital gains taxes will be raised from 15 percent to 20 percent. The Bush tax cuts will be repealed, and death taxes reimposed.

-- Two or three more liberal activists of the Ruth Bader Ginsberg-John Paul Stevens stripe will be named to the Supreme Court. U.S. district and appellate courts will be stacked with "progressives."

-- Special protections for homosexuals will be written into all civil rights laws, and gays and lesbians in the military will be invited to come out of the closet. "Don't ask, don't tell" will be dead.

-- The homosexual marriages that state judges have forced California, Massachusetts and Connecticut to recognize, an Obama Congress or Obama court will require all 50 states to recognize.

-- A "Freedom of Choice Act" nullifying all state restrictions on abortions will be enacted. America will become the most pro-abortion nation on earth.

-- Affirmative action -- hiring and promotions based on race, sex and sexual orientation until specified quotas are reached -- will be rigorously enforced throughout the U.S. government and private sector.

-- Universal health insurance will be enacted, covering legal and illegal immigrants, providing another powerful magnet for the world to come to America, if necessary by breaching her borders.

-- A federal bailout of states and municipalities to keep state and local governments spending up could come in December or early next year.

-- The first trillion-dollar deficit will be run in the first year of an Obama presidency. It will be the first of many.

Welcome to Obamaland!

BS and so what.

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Originally posted by tammylynwilson:
BS and so what.

We need to remember this flippiant attitude so it can be thrown back in their face in the not-so-distant future.

As for me, I already started. I turned off the porch light on Halloween and instead gave candy to the kids in town that were too lazy or (get this, they will hate this one) too "disenfranchised" to go out and trick or treat for themselves. I really wanted to give the disenfranchised more, but it is still illegal to take the fruits of another's labor (the candy) away from the kids as they went door-to-door. It won't be long before that is exactly what we will do, and then the disenfranchised kids will get even more candy next year.

Pilot to Weapons System Officer, incoming democratic party threat detected! Deploy countermeasures! Going for Mach 3. HANG ON, THIS IS GOING TO GET ROUGH!

Considering that most of the article attributed to Pat Buchanan is about an inch from hate speech - yeah, so what - as in, this guy's opinion is shallow and ignorant.

Any predictions on how soon I will see my Obama tax cut and free health care? I qualify, because I make a whole lot less than $250K and it is all pension. Better yet, how soon until my pension taxes go away?

How are you going to pay to cover me?

Hello? Reality check......The elections and partying are over, now it it time to do what your candidate said. I'm waiting. How soon?

Well, let's see, it took GW only a couple of years to p*** away a surplus. Obama hasn't even took office and you people are whining. I can see how it's going to be the next 4 years. You want him to correct the stupidity of the current admin before he is sworn in......... Forrest Gump is truely correct Stupid is as stupid does

Yeah.

I was thinking this Pat Buchanan piece needed no comment, but it hit my inbox for the fourth time today.

I am truly, truly, deeply embarrassed to be a conservative today. I didn't vote for Barack Obama, I am not a fan of Barack Obama, but as of January 20, he is my President and he has my support. While I will almost certainly criticize his administration AFTER he is sworn in, I refuse to criticize him based on speculation.

I would apologize for all of the other non-loopy conservatives, but they usually don't invite me to their parties, so I'll let them stick up for themselves. As for myself, Pat Buchanan's piece most definitely does NOT speak for me!

And (in homage to SS's reference) "that's all I have to say about that".

While I can understand that some people will disagree with the points made in the article, Tammy, it is not hate speech. Where is it hate speech? You see, issues should be discussed and debated without those in disagreement labeling it hate speech. It's not. Pat Buchanan is an idealogue, for sure. But this is not hate speech or anywhere near it.

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Originally posted by Aviator:

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Originally posted by tammylynwilson:
BS and so what.

We need to remember this flippiant attitude so it can be thrown back in their face in the not-so-distant future.

As for me, I already started. I turned off the porch light on Halloween and instead gave candy to the kids in town that were too lazy or (get this, they will hate this one) too "disenfranchised" to go out and trick or treat for themselves. I really wanted to give the disenfranchised more, but it is still illegal to take the fruits of another's labor (the candy) away from the kids as they went door-to-door. It won't be long before that is exactly what we will do, and then the disenfranchised kids will get even more candy next year.

Pilot to Weapons System Officer, incoming democratic party threat detected! Deploy countermeasures! Going for Mach 3. HANG ON, THIS IS GOING TO GET ROUGH!

E-X-A-C-T-L-Y!!!

well I figure it will take President Obama his whole 4 years jst to attempt to get a handle on the disaster the bush admin has left this country in.. honestly I dont forsee much getting done on anything "new" because of the mess Pres. Obama will have to straighten out... if Pres Obama does nothing but get a handle on the aftermath of the bush admin then he will be a good president if he gets a handle on the bush disaster and attempts to carry out one campain promise then he will be a great president

Obama was not my canidate of choice but he was a better option than the other choice i had of mc cain... i would much rather have Hillary but i will support obama until he gives me a reason to bad mouth him ( bush has given me plenty of reasons to bad mouth so all i really expect from Obama is to get a handle on the bush disaster)

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I would apologize for all of the other non-loopy conservatives, but they usually don't invite me to their parties, so I'll let them stick up for themselves.

I'd invite you to my parties, but I never have them. Such is the life of a boring, un-hip conservative.

And I do think we've heard enough rhetoric from both sides this season. I for one, think we (as conservatives) should give Obama a chance. We might as well jump on the bipartisan bandwagon he was so fond of advertising during his campaign. I mean the damage is done (election-wise) and the best course of action might be to work together with the new admin to guide the country in a manner that's pleasing to both sides.

Or in the words of Kent Brockman "I FOR ONE WELCOME OUR NEW DEMOCRATIC OVERLORDS . . ."

Course I reserve the right to lay on the whining nice and thick if Pat-o's prophesies come to pass.

For anyone who thinks BO's kumbaya language was anything more than living in the moment, look at his first appointment. Rahm may be good for Obama's crew, but he ain't exactly bi-partisan.

http://www.slate.com/toolbar.aspx?action=print&id=2204046

Obama's Muscle
Rahm Emanuel will bring discipline to the White House. And lots of profanity.
By Christopher Beam
Posted Thursday, Nov. 6, 2008, at 6:18 PM ET

Rahm Emanuel's first task upon becoming Barack Obama's chief of staff will be to track down and fire whoever the f**k leaked word that he was offered the job. Even if that means he has to fire himself.

It wasn't a promising start for the president-elect's transition team. Job offers are supposed to happen behind the scenes. But Obama's courtship of Emanuel was made public nearly a week before Election Day. It's unclear who leaked the news, but Emanuel, not known for his reticence, had been talking to reporters even before the latest wave of speculation. Luckily for Obama, Emanuel accepted—but only after days of what looked like dallying. (Emanuel told a TV station he needed to consider his family, which would have to move from Chicago to D.C.; he would also have to shelve ambitions to become speaker of the House.) Maybe he just didn't want to jinx Obama's victory. Regardless, the impression was that Emanuel wasn't sure he wanted the job.

Whatever his reservations, Emanuel fits the mold of the ruthlessly efficient underlings Obama tends to hire. (Without David Plouffe's intensity, Obama would never be able to remain so stoic.) He's also opinionated. In interviews and debates and even in his books, Obama comes off as the Vishnu of decision-making—one the one hand, on the other hand, on the other hand, etc. Emanuel is unlikely to take "maybe" for an answer. And while the cantankerous former ballet dancer is known best for engineering the Democratic takeover of Congress in 2006, he knows more than fundraising. He's also a shameless wonk who co-authored a blueprint for future Democratic administrations. And in the three year before his congressional run, Emanuel made $16 million on Wall Street (something the RNC will be delighted to tell you more about).

Also, as a veteran of the Clinton administration, Emanuel knows what not to do. During his tense first 100 days, President Bill Clinton was poorly served by his well-intentioned but ineffective chief of staff, Mack McLarty, whose nickname was "Mack the Nice" and who often tried to smile his way to compromise. Emanuel's nickname is "Rahmbo," and he is known for mowing down his opponents. Coming out of Chicago, both he and Obama know the value of muscle.

Of course, steamrolling doesn't win you friends. But making friends isn't Emanuel's job. The chief of staff is tasked with making sure the trains run on time. Taskmaster is Emanuel's middle name. (Imagine Ari Gold—the Entourage character based on Rahm's brother—with an even fouler mouth and a weakness for polls.) He must also frame policy questions in a way that helps the president make decisions. Emanuel knows policy: During the Clinton years, he helped lead (successful) efforts to pass NAFTA and the administration's (less successful) efforts on universal health care. Plus, it's the most demanding job around, and Emanuel is known for sleepless nights and dervishlike energy.

Emanuel's appointment is good for the press, too. (Like you care. But you should!) While Obama got glowing press coverage during the campaign, he also ticked off journalists by limiting access. Emanuel knows the value of press access and is skilled at working the refs. In an Obama administration, with which the media will quickly fall out of love, public relations will be key.

Most important, though, Emanuel knows Congress. McCain spent his final days warning about the perils of undivided government. But undivided government is powerless if it can't bridge divides within its own party. (Just ask Clinton, whose stance on gays in the military faced stiff opposition among Democrats.) Emanuel will serve as an unofficial liaison between Obama and Congress. After all, he got several of them their jobs. Campaign promises like renegotiating NAFTA and taxing windfall profits will likely require serious diplomacy. Handling the results of the bailout—which many congressional Democrats opposed—will be its own mess.

For these sorts of things, Emanuel is well-equipped. It helps, too, that he's no liberal weenie. Emanuel is a classic DLC New Democrat centrist: for fiscal restraint, against punishing businesses. For those who still think Obama is the most liberal member of the Senate (a crock), Emanuel's presence may provide comfort.

Does that mean he's perfectly suited? No. The Republican Party already released an oppo dump on Emanuel, describing him as "hyperpartisan" hack with a penchant for "bare-knuckle tactics" who also happens to be in the pocket of Wall Street. It helpfully points reporters to several anecdotes about his famous temper, which makes John McCain's look mild.(Emanuel once sent a dead fish to an unlucky pollster. Another time, he mimed stabbing his political enemies with a steak knife.)

At the same time, expect some tensions in the West Wing. Emanuel withheld his endorsement of Obama for months—he was hiding under the table, in his words—until Obama's victory was clear. Meanwhile, Emanuel makes no secret of his distaste for Howard Dean and his "50 State Strategy"—an approach that dovetailed perfectly with Obama's wide-net campaign. And Emanuel's partisanship—after winning back the House in 2006, he recommended that Republicans "go f**k themselves"—could undercut Obama's promises to reach across the aisle.

But whatever else it says about the Obama administration, Emanuel's appointment suggests that it will be just as tightly run as the Obama campaign. Discipline is the quality that carried Obama to victory over sloppier opponents, and it's a quality sorely missed in many past Democratic administrations. With expectations for Obama as high as they are, he could do worse than having a human cudgel at his side.

This article and email campaign must be aimed at the few Republicans not locked in their bunkers in a fetal position now that the end has come. I know one otherwise functional individual who seriously believes that Obama is a terrorist, and it is only a matter of time until he blows himself up or flies Air Force one into something.

It isn't enough to have an normal opponent, who you simply have a disagreement with. Americans--and especially Republicans, need an enemy that is larger than life. Saddam was compared to Hitler and Stalin even though he was nowhere near their league.

The opposition does not simply represent a different view, it is dangerous. The opposition policies aren't simply misguided or potentially ineffective--they will destroy this nation!! Pat Buchanan and his far-right brethren have cynically exploited the politics of fear for generations, and they aren't about to stop. Buchanan worked for Nixon--'nuff said.

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Saddam was compared to Hitler and Stalin even though he was nowhere near their league.

I had to reread that; I thought you said "Bush". But what was I thinking, no one's ever compared Georgie to Adolph.

In terms of body count, Saddam didn't quite live up to Hitler/Stalin standards, but he was as bad as his reputation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/middle_east/02/...raq_human_rights.pdf