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Old Pro |
May 2, 1933 - Adolf Hitler issued an edict abolishing all labor unions.
http://www.workdayminnesota.org/index.php?history_9_05_02_2008 |
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Educated |
Why would this be an important anniversary to remember at this time? |
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Regular |
Other than Hitler being a Tyrant, I'm not sure why you are pointing that one act out (other than anniversary I guess).
However, I did like the link to the history updates. Thanks Seth  |
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Educated |
Maybe Seth is pining for the Ferhur?!
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Old Pro |
It is always good to remember the enemies of liberty and progress and how they often hide behind blind nationalism. |
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Educated |
Anybody contemporary in particular you have in mind? |
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Old Pro |
Yes, all of us if we are not mindful. |
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Old Pro |
Pretty simple to figure out, no? The point is, oppose labor unions, and you're as bad as Hitler. Only truly evil people coulc ever possibly oppose unions. Unions are God, after all. There's a reason Godwin's law exists, you know. it's just not often it's invoked before there's even a reply. |
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Old Pro |
John, Godwin's law applies to hyperbolic or inappropriate comparisons to Hitler/Nazis. Seth's made no specific comparison, but your interpretation of his intent is a bit hyperbolic. Hitler did much more than "oppose" unions--he outlawed them and jailed their organizers. It was one of many steps he took in consolidating power, including eliminating opposing political parties. It should be noted that Hitler started out in a political party made up of disaffected and unemployed workers called the German Workers Party--which Hitler later changed to the National Socialist German Workers Party or Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei: the Nazi party for short.
This message has been edited. Last edited by: Pete Kirkman, |
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Educated |
That's what I figured you'd say... so, no need to take this thread seriously. BTW, deft move leaving Hitler's name out of the thread title... |
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Educated |
Well said, John... direct and to the point. |
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Old Pro |
That is your distortion. Opposing labor unions doesn't make you as bad as Hitler. It is a stance that is consistent with authoritarianism and if such a philosophy is generalized to enough areas of policy, you would be getting closer. But, getting closer is like saying that you are driving to the south pole when you drive home to Joplin from your relatives in KC. Getting closer does not mean being there. Just as supporting economic regulation doesn't make you a socialist, although it is a stance in the direction of that extreme. So don't come in here and distort what I believe when I have made my thoughts on this clear enough for the literate and honest among us to avoid what you just participated in. |
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Educated |
What happens if a labor union is corrupt, criminal and imposes or blackmails an industry into expenses which result in the company folding or everyone else paying more than a product or service is worth? Would it in that case be "authoritarian" (in a good way, of course) to oppose the union? Or, would it make sense to put a stop to their nonsense and abuse? |
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Old Pro |
It can make sense to not support a particular union. I took what we were discussing as an opposition to unionization generally. |
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Educated |
What we are actually discussing is the relative merits of gratuitously posting a thread which purports to be about Labor when it was actually a transparent sub-text for accusing the American government of being ANTI-labor and therefore like Hitler and Nazism. Are you a Communist? If so, then fine, no problem... we have freedom of speech and assembly in America, still. Better to know these things up front so that we needn't engage in silly parsed threads and postings. |
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