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Old Pro |
This is quite interesting, to say the least. Discuss amongst yourselves.
 Also, I'm taking bets again. The polls are showing a rather tight race, when by all accounts, the Messiah should have this one in the bag. So the question is this: How many threads will Seth start each evening between now and the election? The over/under is 5 a night for now, but that number will go up significantly if the polls tighten even more. Remember, no one is truly successful until no one is allowed to be truly successful. *********** Me I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. ************ Benjamin Franklin I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. ********* Ronald Reagan Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. ********* Calvin Coolidge |
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It is in the bag. Obama will be elected President this time next week. I have read and read and although voting for Obama (reluctantly) that is the conclusion I have came to.
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Possibly, Niandra. But the polls aren't always accurate. Clinton supposedly had a 13 to 15 point lead over Bob Dole, and won by "only" 8.5 or so, outside the supposed margin of error. Point is, all things considered this shouldn't even be this close. I would not be that surprised if McCain were to pull it out, although it certainly seems to be Obama's to lose.
I do, however, think this whole "redistribution" slip up is costing the Messiah dearly, what with both the Joe The Plumber screw-up and that 2001 video, which is why his propaganda team of cultists is out in full force trying to discredit anyone who brings it up as a topic of discussion. They're losing ground even with the media helping them out, and it's making them nervous. The one thing that they absolutely could not abide was Obama's true social and economic views coming out into the harsh light of day before the election, yet lo and behold their own candidate slipped up and made it a viable campaign point. You could build quite a nice house with the bricks they're sh*tting right about now. The stuff with Wright, Ayers, et al, while important, wasn't going to gain any traction. But Obama himself all but out and out saying "I'm a socialist"? That stings. McCain has six more days to make it hurt really badly. I, for one, hope he does it, not because I support McCain (frankly, I don't), but because I can't stand the thought of a true socialist in power with a socialist congress to boot. McCain will have a hard time of it, as every single cultist has been instructed to deny and demean (huh-uh, he is not, and only idiots would think he is!) any time the topic is broached, but I truly believe it's finally sinking in to many what is actually inside that slickly packaged candidate. Other than Seth's inevitable multitude of anti-McCain and anti-Palin threads, this should be an interesting week. Remember, no one is truly successful until no one is allowed to be truly successful. *********** Me I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. ************ Benjamin Franklin I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. ********* Ronald Reagan Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. ********* Calvin Coolidge |
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You notice he always says that McCain said if they talk about the economy they will lose so he (obama) keeps talking about the economy..except that he never does actually talk about the economy. All he talks about is how McCain wants to avoid talking about the economy and how the American people want to hear about the economy and how he is talking about the economy...but he never talks about the economy. He just talks about talking about the economy...real smooth...and the dumb as$es who go to his rallies don't even realize he ain't talking about the economy....I guess he figures if he talks about the economy (for real) that he'll lost too.
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Now now, don't call me a dumb as$. Just because the quick clips on the news don't have any details doesn't mean he hasn't presented his plans. You can see more details here: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/ Now, I'm no expert, and I think there are so many dynamics involved in the whole economic deal that there will be lots of adjustments and tweaks along the way. I support many of his key points though, esp. not supporting corps. that send jobs overseas. |
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I tend to agree with John O, the fat lady hasn't sung yet. I'm wondering how much last minute racist jitters are going to stop people from voting for Obama. Though on the other hand he's leading by a pretty substantial margin in enough states to virtually guarantee a win. It seems like McCain would have to pull off some sort of miracle (Cheat) to win but anything could happen.
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See? Deny and demean. It's fairly obvious what tactics they're adopting. Treat it like it's a joke and you're an idiot for even giving it an ounce of credence. Sigh...
So what's up next? Perhaps the accusation that you "do not knowing what socialism is"? That one will come up plenty in the next week as well. Maybe it'll be the old "well there are already socialist aspects to our economy!" argument. Or, if the polls get any closer, maybe we'll just all be back to being racists again. The Obama cultists are scared to death that his true political leanings got out, and they'll do anything to try to stop their ship from listing. So keep posting the jokes and snide asides. Keep obfuscating whenever possible. The polls, inaccurate as they are, show people are listening and finally starting to question the Messiah and what he really stands for. As I said, it's going to be an interesting week. Remember, no one is truly successful until no one is allowed to be truly successful. *********** Me I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. ************ Benjamin Franklin I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. ********* Ronald Reagan Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. ********* Calvin Coolidge |
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Yes, Rawhead. The only poll that really matters is the one they take on November 4 of this year. Since it's rather impossible for any pollster to poll every single individual, and even then a number of those individuals could change their minds, it's not yet a done deal. It's likely going to be Obama, God help us all, but it's not done yet.
Remember, no one is truly successful until no one is allowed to be truly successful. *********** Me I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. ************ Benjamin Franklin I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. ********* Ronald Reagan Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. ********* Calvin Coolidge |
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If Obama loses it's going to be against all odds because Lord knows he's had plenty of passes and help from the media. This man has had more people pulling and whatever else they've had to do for him so there is no reason he should lose, except that people wake up and realize he's not what they think he is. This has been an uphill battle for McCain all the way and despite all that is against him he has managed to stay fairly close in the polls.
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There you have it: RNC strategy in a nutshell. Of course, they also believe in fear-mongering, red-baiting, guilt by association, and whisper campaigns. They don't have a candidate or program that draws people to them, so they have to try and drive people away from Obama. Hey, maybe if we lower gas prices people will vote for us! |
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Nah, all we have to do is point people to his own words. He does the rest. That's why Obama cultists are falling all over themselves to deny and demean.
His own words. It's as simple as that. Unless, of course, using his words is somehow racist. Remember, no one is truly successful until no one is allowed to be truly successful. *********** Me I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. ************ Benjamin Franklin I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. ********* Ronald Reagan Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. ********* Calvin Coolidge |
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Right. So anybody who dismisses this in any fashion, or points out that the interpretation McCain and Palin have assigned to his statement is wrong is a "cultist" coming to the defense of their "messiah." Anyone who does not accept the prophecy from Mt. RNC declaring Obama a socialist is simply a blind follower.
There is a name for those who spread partisan lies in the name of their cause, and who will martyr themselves rather than accept any challenge to their dogma. They used to be called Zealots--now they are simply called Republicans. BTW, John--I seem to recall your party masters characterizing Obama as an elitist, and they indicated that is a bad thing. Did you get approval to quote Ayn Rand from headquarters? Because she was as elitist as they come. |
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Which should be more proof that I am beholden to no party. Besides, what's wrong with elitism? It's elitism combined with God-awful socialist policies that scares me.
Remember, no one is truly successful until no one is allowed to be truly successful. *********** Me I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. ************ Benjamin Franklin I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. ********* Ronald Reagan Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. ********* Calvin Coolidge |
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Maybe so, but your party masters say that Obama is an elitist because he went to Harvard, hangs out with Bill Ayers, etc etc. And of course, McCain is in touch with Joe Average or Bob the Builder or Dora the Explorer or whoever he is referencing now. He sees those people as he drives by in one of his 9 cars on the way to one of his thirteen houses.
And the only reason socialism is being mentioned at all is the very reason you admitted: it scares you. |
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