Are You Influenced By PA Primary?
Just wondering, are you influenced by the results in the Pennsylvania Primary?
Are you influenced by the PA Primary results?

hello to the indiana democratic voters. we here in pa have voted for hillary clinton. we are proud of our vote. be on the lookout for this guy who will infilitrate your posts as your primary gets closer. he came to ours and pushed for obama. you are certainly free to vote for obama if thats your choice. well after he lost this guy ray Beaufait who goes by the screen name beau1943 posted this to us pa voters. if this doesnt ring of elitism to you then you're not looking at it fairly... heres what he posted to us after obama lost..

I am disappointed that Pennsylvania just let down themselves, all other Americans and the world with their selection of Hillary Clinton an admitted liar and evil politician. But, the people of Pennsylvania have spoken. They should be ashamed of themselves for letting all of America down.

Americas's only hope for a Government serving all Americans.

Vote Barack Obama 08

Ray Beaufait

Why would anyone in Indiana be especailly influenced by the results of the Pennsylvania primary?

In what must prove among the greatest ironies of all time, for Barack Obama to become President, which he well may accomplish, he will have to succeed in convincing a lot of racist white people to vote for him. Without the support of racists he simply can't win. While this may seem counterintuitive--that is, after all, what makes it ironic--it is really inarguable. After all, according to many an opinion survey in the past decade, large numbers of whites (often as high as one-half to three-quarters) harbor at least one negative and racist stereotype about African Americans, whether regarding their intelligence, law-abidingness, work ethic, or value systems. Without the votes of at least some of those whites (and keep in mind, that's how many whites are willing to admit to racist beliefs, which is likely far fewer than actually hold them), Obama's candidacy would be sunk. So long as whites can vote for a black man only to the extent that he doesn't remind them of other black people, it is fair to say that white people remain mired in a racism quite profound. To the extent we view the larger black community in terms far more hostile than those reserved for Obama, Oprah, Tiger, Colin, Condoleezza, Denzel and Bill (meaning Cosby, not Clinton, whose blackness is believed to be authentic only by himself nowadays), whites have proven how creative we can be, and how resourceful, when it comes to the maintenance of racial inequality.

By granting exemptions from blackness, even to those black folks who did not ask for such exemptions (and nothing I have said here should be taken as a critique of Obama himself by the way, for whom I did indeed vote last month), we have taken racism to an entirely new and disturbing level, one that bypasses the old and all-encompassing hostilities of the past, and replaces them with a new, seemingly ecumenical acceptance in the present. But make no mistake, it is an ecumenism that depends upon our being made to feel good, and on our ability to glom onto folks of color who won't challenge our denial let alone our privileges, even if they might like to.

In short, the success of Barack Obama has proven, perhaps more so than any other single thing could, just how powerful race remains in America. His success, far from disproving white power and privilege, confirms it with a vengeance.

I am sick and tired of all the talk about Hillary Clinton and lobbyists. So she takes money from lobbyists. So what? Is it illegal? No. Is it immoral? Not at all. Taking money from a PAC or lobbying group does not oblige a politician to do their bidding. So, she has taken money from drug companies, oil companies, etc. Does this mean she will be unable to pursue health care reform or energy policy reform? Absolutely not.
Obama has raised massive amounts online and outspent Senator Clinton almost everywhere. If she didn’t take money from lobbyists, how could she get her message out? Obama doesn’t take a “dime” from lobbyists? Well, that’s his choice but that doesn’t mean that all other politicians must follow suit. We need a nominee who knows how to win and if that includes taking money from lobbyists, so be it. Hillary has my vote!

I don't have anything against Hillary, not one bit; I simply favor Obama. Heck, we could elect a head of lettuce and be better off than we are today.

While not illegal, if you do not push legislation favoring the companies giving you money, then they're not going to be giving you money. That's the way it works. So, on some level, yes, she will do their bidding.

While I more or less agree with you, Senator Clinton knows that you must do whatever it takes to win. If that means taking money from lobbyists, I say go right ahead. Even if the rumors about Rush Limbaugh and his conservative associates and PACs "sponsoring" some of her later commericals in PA are true (I'm not saying that the rumors are true, but even if they were), it would be one more evidence that she know how to win doing WHATEVER IT TAKES. Isn't that what we need in America?

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Originally posted by Laura Ingalls:
Even if the rumors about Rush Limbaugh and his conservative associates and PACs "sponsoring" some of her later commericals in PA are true (I'm not saying that the rumors are true, but even if they were), it would be one more evidence that she know how to win doing WHATEVER IT TAKES. Isn't that what we need in America?

What is this about Rush Limbaugh? Has anyone heard anything about this? Fascinating...

It seems all Obama's speech about did was to further the divide. Now if you don't show support for him you're called a racist. Be careful of his supporters they can be aggresive. I just think this country is in such bad shape now that we need a fighter and someone with experience.

Hello from a PA native!

We listened to both candidates for 6 weeks and picked Hillary by 10%.

Pundits are now calling us racists. WE ARE NOT!

After 6 weeks, many in PA found that Obama did not relate to us as he claimed.

His bitter - guns - church comment REALLY P I S S E D us off. We don't want a president to tell us how or what to think. We are proud of our heritage - the first day of deer season is a holiday in many PA school districts.

We are religiously diverse and proud, with many protestant denominations, catholics and jews. We do not cling to God because we are bitter, rather our religion gives us strength in both good and bad times.

We are white collar and blue collar - but I think most all of us can bowl better than a 37 --- BLINDFOLDED.

Obama claims to be a regular guy from a middle class background, but after watching him for just 6 weeks, many voters realized that he is NOT like us. He puts on an air of elitism when dealing with the "typical" people. He becomes passive-aggressive when confronted or challenged; never actually playing the race card, but holding it in plain sight for everybody to see.

He claims to fight for us, but when you really listen to what he says, he is not fighting FOR us, but rather AGAINST some unseen bogeyman running Big Oil, Big Pharma or Big Finance. He never acknowledges that WE are employed by these companies.

He bemoans high gas prices, but his solution is to RAISE taxes on the oil companies. How on G-ds green earth is raising taxes on an oil company going to lower the cost of gas???

Vote Hillary!!!

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What is this about Rush Limbaugh? Has anyone heard anything about this? Fascinating...

As I've already stated, I'm sure there is nothing to this. It's just you Obama supporters making things up again!
After all, would Rush Limbaugh really support Hillary? Are you joking me?

Rush Limbaugh supports Hillary insofar as he believes that Hillary will lose the general election. He has publicly urged his fans to change their affiliation so that they can vote in the primaries for Hillary.

Get over the Rush Limbaugh stuff, okay. It's Obama who has all the Republicans voting for him and they won't be there in the fall that is one of the reasons why he is unelectable.

First he thinks you're bitter and then he thinks you've lost your dignity.

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